(03-23-2010 04:16 PM)emma kate Wrote: [ -> ]All your information is really good, Thanks you are all, lovely people
Yes he did say he breeds them him self as my husband asked him if he made alot of money out of it as he had LOADS of torts, he stated he dose make money about 2-4K a month but he said thats because he breeds them himself and he has no overheads.
ive been talking to someone from the living rainforest hes got a spur thigh thats for sale also from turkey im realy intrested in getting him as the one ive got is from turkey. i just dont want her being alone.
but im going to wait and see what the vet says on friday about princess first before i go down.
she realy dose seem okay the only thing ive noticed is when im giving her a bath the last few days her wee has been white not chalkey though, but iv read that its okay.
Oh dear - the living rain forest is just as bad I am afraid - they have been investigated several times. If you were to get anotjher from a pet shop you will be doing exactly the same thing unfortunately. You really would be better off waiting. Tortoises are solitary creatures anyway and you would have more problems by doing this. Do remember that to get imports means that many more are taken from the wild a lot of which will die on the journey. I know it's tempting but it's a very cruel trade. Have a look here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=796eTGg-8UE This is from the Tortoise Protection Group. Woudl you really want to contribute to anything like this, I know I wouldn't. Hope it is not too upsetting but it does make you realise that these pet shop owners are not really bothered about how they get there so long as they make a sale, they will charge you a lot more than a respected breeder too
Why not give the one you have, chance to settle in and make sure there are no nasties working before looking for a breeder with one of next seasons tortoises. Just because it is from Turkey does not mean it will be the same as Turkey is a huge country with lots of different looking iberas.
ive just been on the phone to the vet to get her checked out, yeah it is tempting. you think you are helping them by offering them a good home but really all i would be doing is making her/him sad.
im going to take a step back and wait and see what the vet says. this forum is really good and helpfull, id be lost if it wasnt for yous
(03-23-2010 05:15 PM)emma kate Wrote: [ -> ]ive just been on the phone to the vet to get her checked out, yeah it is tempting. you think you are helping them by offering them a good home but really all i would be doing is making her/him sad.
im going to take a step back and wait and see what the vet says. this forum is really good and helpfull, id be lost if it wasnt for yous
Its not so much making it sad but it would be supporting the wild trade in tortoises which is unethical and cruel. If your vet is not a specialist he would not necessarily know about any of this. There is also the factor that you do not know the sex yet and could well end up with one of each which you would have to seperate at some point to prevent unwelcome advances from the male. My advice would certainly be to wait for a few years unless you wanted two seperate enclosures that is.
Good luck
(03-23-2010 05:25 PM)wizzasmum Wrote: [ -> ] (03-23-2010 05:15 PM)emma kate Wrote: [ -> ]ive just been on the phone to the vet to get her checked out, yeah it is tempting. you think you are helping them by offering them a good home but really all i would be doing is making her/him sad.
im going to take a step back and wait and see what the vet says. this forum is really good and helpfull, id be lost if it wasnt for yous
Its not so much making it sad but it would be supporting the wild trade in tortoises which is unethical and cruel. If your vet is not a specialist he would not necessarily know about any of this. There is also the factor that you do not know the sex yet and could well end up with one of each which you would have to seperate at some point to prevent unwelcome advances from the male. My advice would certainly be to wait for a few years unless you wanted two seperate enclosures that is.
Good luck
your 100% rite
they have a specialist that comes twice aweek called vikki, ive made it with her, on monday 10am, i wish it was sooner.
i Know i call him/her princess and my husband calls him/her stig. lol
why is it that that they must live apart for 1year???
Kind Regards
Emma
incase one has a disease,
i Know i call him/her princess and my husband calls him/her stig. lol
why is it that that they must live apart for 1year???
Kind Regards
Emma
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Because they all carry their own pathogens and if from different areas then could infect the other one with something potentially fatal. When torts are imported a percentage of them, particularly if wild caught will die. Some of the remaining ones could be carrying the diseases. Of this percentage, some will build up an immunity and others will succumb later on. At the moment herpes is rife in imported tortoises and has become a major concern in the tortoise world. Many people have lost whole long term collections through the introduction of just one carrier. Herpes in tortoises is not the same virus as the human one and is usually fatal. We all think that it won't happen to us but it does and has wiped out groups of tortoises owned by experienced people. If people owned up to this happening then maybe people would be more careful but unfortunately they tend to keep it to themselves.
(03-23-2010 05:54 PM)wizzasmum Wrote: [ -> ]i Know i call him/her princess and my husband calls him/her stig. lol
why is it that that they must live apart for 1year???
Kind Regards
Emma
Because they all carry their own pathogens and if from different areas then could infect the other one with something potentially fatal. When torts are imported a percentage of them, particularly if wild caught will die. Some of the remaining ones could be carrying the diseases. Of this percentage, some will build up an immunity and others will succumb later on. At the moment herpes is rife in imported tortoises and has become a major concern in the tortoise world. Many people have lost whole long term collections through the introduction of just one carrier. Herpes in tortoises is not the same virus as the human one and is usually fatal. We all think that it won't happen to us but it does and has wiped out groups of tortoises owned by experienced people. If people owned up to this happening then maybe people would be more careful but unfortunately they tend to keep it to themselves.
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Thanks Sue,
There is so much more to learn and understand about torts.
Kind regards
Emma
Hi Emma. It never stops being a learning curve where tortoises are concerned.
i second that
after 23ish years of tortoise keeping i'm always on the lookout to learn and i probably always will have something new to learn
